I started having an issue with my computer maybe back in May, where anytime I powered my machine off I had to reconfigure my Bios settings, as my primary Bios had failed, after several months of this I guess I just got tired of dealing with it, so I sold my android tablet (yes I did! and no I didn’t own more than one…) and bought a new Gigabyte Ga-990FX`-UD3 motherboard, which right now I am not very happy with, but I’ll get to that later, a new MD PhenomII x6 1090T CPU, a new XFX AMD Radeon 6850 Video Card, and 3 new Seagate 1.5TB HDDs. I have to reimburse myself for the hard drives however, as they were not paid for by selling my tablet. Hopefully selling my old Video Card, Motherboard, and CPU will cover their costs.
I’ve had all kinds of interesting episodes while trying to get this new hardware to work over the last, almost, 3 weeks. the good = back on linux, bye bye Microsoft. The bad=bye bye Google cloud print (kind of), possibility of getting Nuance Dragon Naturally Speaking to work (outside of a VM), possibility of getting my digital camera to work by just plugging it in the computer (for now). Here are a list of some of the issues I’ve run into, if they have lengthy resolutions, or attempted resolutions, I’ll link to another post (after I write it!) describing my efforts to get things working.
First up: Microsoft Windows 7 x64 Ultimate edition
- The only thing on the motherboard that works immediately after installation are the CPU, Ram, Keyboard, and Mouse.
- NIC, eSATA, on-board RAID, USB 3.0, none of it worked until after installing the drivers from the MB CD.
- The motherboard has 2 or 3 different RAID chipsets, at least one Marvell 88SE9172 and a Realtek (I think), each can be enabled separately as IDE/AHCI/RAID, I’ll check and get back to you on this one.
- One for the internal SATA ports 0-3.
- One for the internal SATA ports 4 and 5.
- Can only be enabled as RAID when ports 0-3 are also enabled as RAID.
- This seems a little bit backwards to me, as the only way to mirror your boot drive is to enable RAID on all ports… or lose ports 2&3 and mirror on 0&1, then not set RAID on 4&5 giving you only a mirror plus 2 drive slots on the MB. Else you are forced to RAID 0/1 on ports 0-3 and to use 4/5 for your boot mirror.
- One for the eSATA port
- When enabled and nothing is connected, it reports 2 available ports; however when the cable is connected I have gotten 3 drives (out of 4) in my external drive caddy to show up.
- I ran into one issue where I had a device not identified in Windows 7, even after installing the drivers from the CD. I checked on the CD again and it actually has an installer to put Driver Agent on your computer to scan for out of date drivers. well I ran it.
- It found the missing driver and also told me about 6 others were either out of date or had the wrong drivers installed. of the ones it wanted me to update, only one was free, the others were available after paying a $29.99 annual fee.
- The first link took me to the Gigabyte home page for the MB but did not list any driver that was not also included on the CD.
- The second link took me to a driver website download page for an Nvidia driver package!
- Well I gave it a shot, and sure enough it recognized the device and installed the driver, from an Nvidia driver package on my AMD chipset MB.
- Then I started getting BSODs on the RAID driver MV91xx.dll.
- After moving all my data around so I could setup a RAID5 5 drive array of 1.5TB drives, I had to undo it all and move data around to use them as normal disks, so I could disable the Marvell RAID in the BIOS (internal SATA ports 0-5) to prevent windows from loading the driver (which was the newest version from their website).
- This did indeed stop the BSOD for that DLL.
- Then the system started shutting itself off randomly after 4-45 minutes from windows bootup.
- I have not yet figured this one out, Gigabyte support wants me to disconnect all USB devices to test… (no mention of how I am to connect my KB or mouse) fyi no issues with the USB devices when my old MB was in the case, and no issue with the USB devices when booted to a linux live CD, nor any issues with random power offs at all, now that I am booting to Ubuntu 11.10 x64.
- If you press a key (such as ctrl+f or del or F4 or F8 or Shift or anything else really) at anytime during bootup that the system is not expecting a keypress, the boot up process hangs and you have to press the reset button or manually power off the computer.
- What this means is if you are trying to get into the RAID BIOS controller setup, or the “change boot device” menu, or to get the GRUB menu to show up when hidden, or to start windows in safe mode, and you do not press the key/key combination one time at the exact time necessary, the system will hang and you cannot get in to that boot submenu
- It often takes me 10-30 boot attempts to get into what ever submenu I need to change the configuration.
- Ubuntu runs fine on the system, except for two issues…
- The network adapter will not work. I’ve tried many suggestions from forums, even downloaded the Realtek 8111e driver direct from realtek. It will not connect to anything (you may need to blacklist the wrong drivers, there are some 8 different models included in the linux driver package download).
- Current resolution, I installed a GB NIC PCI card, works great.
- I cannot get my Radeon HD6850 working, multiple issues.
- Any changes to the AMDCCLE configuration disappears after closing the interface. even if I open it right back up, the settings are back the way they were. Help with manually configuring AMDCCCLE
- Any time I restart the computer it hangs after “checking battery state [ok]“.
- This is when it loads the graphical settings to launch X.
- As a note, I have a dual monitor setup, both on the two DVI ports; however because one DVI port is a DVI-d I have to have my right monitor connected as monitor0 and my left one connected as monitor1 (this makes things backwards, moving the mouse to the right puts it on the left screen and vice versa, unless you specify it in the configuration.
- Current resolution for this problem (short incomplete version):
- Reboot into Ubuntu recovery mode from GRUB (good luck!).
- Mount/remount all devices and read/write.
- Then press enter to exit that screen.
- Then select root command prompt.
- Because the onboard NIC does not work, there is no point in selecting root command prompt with networking, as it won’t enable the PCI NIC.
- Now enter the following to remove all AMD video drivers from the system:
- learn more about the xorg.conf settings
- Hopefully you have manually created the deb packages for your ati drivers, if not, you can reboot now and use the default drivers for xorg to download the drivers and put them in the /root/amd6xxx directory on your system (you will need to create the amd6xxx directory under /root) and follow these instructions after booting back in to the recovery mode root command prompt after remounting devices as read/write, instructions above.
- You either already had the files, or you just created them (only follow the creating .deb files section), so we can move on to install the AMD drivers for the Radeon 6xxx series card.
- This should run without much of an issue, might be a couple of mini errors (file not found, skipping), but nothing to prevent the installation from finishing.
- And to finish up:
- I am not 100% sure the “effective=startup” part is necessary or even works.
- You can now reboot and cross your fingers.
- I have to do this every time I restart my system, and sometimes it does not work and I have to do it 2-5 times before I can get back in.
- There are also times when I boot and get 1 flickering screen and one working screen (both tinted like my background image).
- There are also times when I get one flickering screen and the other not, but both are nearly all white. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL initiates a reboot, so I know Ubuntu booted at least.
- There are some times when I get cloned displays in 1024×768 resolution (not my default or preferred).
Next up: Ubuntu 11.10 x64
apt-get purge -qq --no-download fglrx* xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
Xorg -configure
sudo /root/amd6xxx
./ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/oneiric
dpkg -i *.deb
aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right --xinerama=on --effective=startup --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
Any attempt at a total and complete resolution is still a work in progress…
Continuing on from my last post, it was really quite simple to get KDE to run after I closed that post. in fact I only had to type in 2 lines and the second one ran KDE.
exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4 > ~/.xinitrc startx
BAM! that was [...]
Continuing on from my last post, it was really quite simple to get KDE to run after I closed that post. in fact I only had to type in 2 lines and the second one ran KDE.
- exec /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde4 > ~/.xinitrc
- startx
BAM! that was it, finally!! after 2.5 years of trying I could not believe it was so simple… and then I noticed… I had no KB or Mouse… I did not know it was possible to be so happy and so sad at the same time…
You can search the inet any way you want and you’ll find out that running “X -configure” will generate your xorg.conf.new file that you then have to move to “/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf “ one more item to note, when you test this, make sure you type “X -retro” or “Xorg -retro” else you will just get a blank screen.
*****WARNING*****ok, now that I got your attention, you must run the following command before attempting to use your xorg.conf in the previously mentioned location or you will lock your system up and have to hit the power button. “sudo chmod root:wheel /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf“ if you do not have sudo installed, you have 3 choices.
- login as root (something I never do except to add my user id to the sudoers file)
- type “su -” and switch to root
- login as root and type “pkg_add -r sudo” then either add yourself to the wheel group or add yourself to the sudoers file
there are several ways to add yourself to the wheel group, the only one that sticks out in my mind right now that I can vouch for is “pw moduser [username] -G wheel [username]” this one sets your group to wheel AND your default group [username], if you skip the second [username] you will no longer have access to any of your own files or you can type “pw groupmod wheel -m [username]” should do the same, to add yourself to the sudoers file you need to type “visudo” then you will be in vi, here is what to do if you don’t know vi.
- press ”/” (initiates a search)
- type “root” (tells vi what to search for)
- press enter (begins the search process)
- press “n” (takes you to the next instance of “root”)
- press “o” (creates a new blank line under the current one and starts editing)
- type [username] [tab] “ALL=(ALL) ALL“ (make sure you use caps on the “ALL”, this allows [username] to use sudo)
- press ESC (stops edit mode)
- press “:” (informs vi you wish to enter a command)
- type “wq!” (tells vi to “write” the current file to disk and “quit” vi “NOW”
- press enter (executes the command you have entered
Now you will no longer have to log in as root on your machine, or su to root again. Back to my problems… So, I ran the dreaded -configure command (dreaded because after running it on any system in the last 2-3 years the only result I have ever gotten is the blank black screen syndrome) and of course, I got exactly what I was expecting… a blank black screen when I tested X with that config file. This is the reason I did not switch to FreeBSD instead of windows back when FreeBSD 6.1 was released, I could never get beyond this point. Well, about a days worth of inet searching and I have come across some useful information that “worked” for several users. Nothing worked for me (feel free to search the issue and you’ll get a lovely list of others having this issue, some getting off easy, some giving up, some finding alternate ways to do it.) about 15 minutes ago (not that you will know when that was based off my posting time, but it makes sense to say it that way…) I found a lovely forum post on FreeBSD.org, now when you look at that post you may not be surprised by what you see there, it is fairly common troubleshooting and common knowledge about the workings of FreeBSD and X.org; HOWEVER!!! and here is the kicker, it has in it a code snippet of the ever elusive “ServerFlags” section of xorg.conf, something that apparently is not auto generated and really is not documented well (additionally other posts I saw told you to stick it in the “ServerLayout” section, which only causes X to crash without loading.) I added the following to my xorg.conf file:
- Section “ServerFlags”
- Option “AllowEmptyInput” “off”
- EndSection
- Section “InputDevice”
- Identifier “Keyboard0″
- Driver ”kbd”
- Option “XkbOptions” “terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp”
- EndSection
Now, if you ran “X -configure” lines 4, 5, 6, and 8 should already be in there. Lines 1 – 3 allow my mouse to work in X, and line 7 allows me to hit ctrl+alt+bksp to exit X and both worked!! So I quickly exited X and tried “startx” and sure enough, KDE loaded, I could see it, and my mouse worked!! hot dog!!
So, I have gone through all my drivers for my wireless network card with the Realtek rtl8190p chipset, all but the windows XP driver will convert with ndisgen and all the ones that convert will load; however I never get a wlan0 or a ndis0 network interface in ifconfig. So, having gotten at least a device identification while using the Kubuntu live CD, I went ahead and tried using ndiswrapper, well, it does not work when in a live CD, requires several packages (which also requires an inet connection). I went ahead and installed Kubuntu 9.10, still no wlan0 in ifconfig; however it correctly identifies the card and the chipset in “lspci -v” so I have been setting the OS up for use, I bridged the wireless network connection from my laptop (which makes the inet not work really well on the laptop, but does allow the desktop to get online).
Well, when I installed the ATI drivers for my video card (a must when intending on using VMs) I caught the invisible mouse bug that has been plaguing Ubuntu since at leas v6 (forum posts) and apparently happens in Fedora with NVidia drivers as well. as best I could tell, only with KDE. Since I am very well attached to my KDE I really do not want to switch. So, I have been working without a visible mouse. I got the ndiswrapper up and running, installed ndisgtk so I could have a UI for ndiswrapper, and added the most recent windows x64 driver for my wireless card to the ndisgtk interface and then my system decided it did not want to work anymore. I could open a terminal and do a “ps” or an “ls” but anything else would hang (including shutdown, reboot, kill, sudo, and ifconfig commands) the inet stopped working and my mouse was invisible, so I rebooted.
This time my display would not activate at all. I waited 20 mins for it to come up, and nothing. at this point I am about to decide that using VMWare is not worth the hassle of getting a computer to work with Linux. I should stick to Virtualbox and Win7 both work just as well, Virtualbox newer versions have advanced 3D support and allow as many processor cores as you physically have (VMWare was limiting me to 2 per VM). The thing I was looking forward to the most about VMWare was the memory pooling, so you could load VMs who’s total RAM assigned was greater than the physical RAM on the machine, since it only gave RAM to a VM when it was needed.
So, now I am in Slax (booted off my USB stick) and have to make emergency repairs to my xorg.conf file (I assume it is the culprit at this point), because I had Kubuntu setup with no bootloader, since I was planning on VMing not multi-booting. Further updates to come… if I get Kubuntu to work, I’ll try BSD again on another HDD and see if anything I learned from Kubuntu helped. If not, I still have my HDD with Win7 sitting on the shelf here next to me.
************update about an hour later…***********
so the Slax Module kndiswrapper (=ndisgtk) was able to load the win XP x64 driver and identify that the device was present. when I clicked the configure network button, it popped up a message “Can’t Start the Network Configureation! No Interface Found”. now… I am starting to wonder if it is not the rtl8190p chipset that is causing my problem, as I have found it correctly identified in Fedora 12, KUbuntu 9.10, and Slax, yet none of them can activate the device for networking. I did note on another page (check the tags for rtl8190p) that I found a website that I think has posted a linux rtl8190 driver, but I am not 100% on that, and have no idea how to add it to the kernel without building my own. AND if I am going to build my own Custom Linux kernel for my machine, I’m gonna need a LOT more time… (when I get up and running on some OS again, and I get back here to add links to this post, I’ll put the link in for that website too).
*******update – an hour after that…*******
Right, thoroughly upset with Ubuntu right now, will not even boot into single user mode, I tried removing the xorg.conf file and still nothing, normal or in single user mode. I can (depending on how my wife reacts to the Cat cable running from her laptop (read “used to be mine”) out of the bedroom, across the hall, and over to the other side of the livingroom…) keep my laptop in bridged mode, I’ve been tinkering and as long as I don’t reboot or touch anything on it (she does not have admin rights and is still in Win7) inet is working on both machines. I only have about 30 more days before I am moving into a new apt (I hope, they still have not called to tell me my application is approved, I don’t know any reason why it wouldn’t, but it normally takes them an hour or 2 when I have gone to other apts, but this place has had 5 days already…) and in the new apt, the router and computer will be side by side, or close enough that you’d never see the cable! so no more wireless needed, until I relocate again…
Anyway, the point of all that ^^^^^ is that I am going to kill KUbuntu and put FreeBSD 8.0 back on my machine…
(I’ll add links after I get a working/bootable computer again)
First, I went with Occam’s razor on my ATI driver issue. after reading close to 20 web pages (mostly forum posts, but some blogs too) and came up with
First, I went with Occam’s razor on my ATI driver issue. after reading close to 20 web pages (mostly forum posts, but some blogs too) and came up with renaming the xorg.conf file and rebooting… This got me up and working again, now I just need to check and find out if it is still using the ATI drivers (I think not, but I’ll get there sooner or later… not on the top of my list of things to do, considering my leg). So, I’ll get back to that later. Now, on to a very popular topic, the Apple iPad, I love the jokes, made many of my own, but all things considered, I won’t be buying one unless the price drops significantly. Else maybe when the gen 2 comes out. My main complaints are the same as most everyone else. No flash support pretty much kills it, I mean that covers nearly 50% of the web, and closer to 70% of the websites I frequent. Not that I like having to deal with flash on websites, but there are just too many web pages that will not function at all without flash that I find it to be a major FAIL on any business to not support flash at this point in time. The multitasking issue is another big one for me, as on my computer I frequently have 20 or so different windows open (mostly web pages) sometimes as many as 30 web pages plus 3 or 4 other programs. Now I understand this allows the system to devote 100% of it’s processing power to the app you are currently using, but most of the things I leave open need constant, even if its once every 10 seconds, attention from the OS/CPU. Last complaint… NO E-INK!!!
Now for some good things, I think the price is great for what you get, the storage sizes are fantastic at those prices, they included bluetooth which although I use it semi-regularly with my current devices I find it to be one of those Boy Scout things you need, in order to “be prepared” at all times. The battery life, well I’ll believe it when I see it. a 1 GHz processor is also fantastic, although not unheard of, nor top of the line. I like the fact they kept the iphone’s compass, accelerometer, it auto detects the ambient light to auto-adjust the back lighting (I hope), it supports 720p and can output 576p via component cables. So there are a lot more good things than bad, but for a WEB and ebook reader (the things I see as it’s main purpose) I think it just plain fails by not supporting flash. Now if Google can get it’s chrome browser on it, then I may just be tempted to get one. Else I am holding out for a Android/Chrome OS tablet that’ll rock my socks off…
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