I guess I should probably say something about this device, but I have found someone else who can say it better…

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Engadget has posted a chart; however once again they dismiss the Notion Ink Adam tablet as a relevant contender, possibly since Notion Ink cannot seem to get their act together… apparently they are now shipping some Pre-Order 2 devices when others have not yet received their Adams from Pre-Orders 1 and 1.5… anyway, the information from the Engadget chart, re-written with the Adam included…

Apple iPad 2 Motorola Xoom HP TouchPad BlackBerry PlayBook Notion Ink Adam
Platform iOS 4.3 Android 3.0 webOS 3.0 BB Tablet OS (QNX) Android 2.2 plus Eden
Display 9.7-inch LED-backlit IPS LCD 10.1-inch 9.7-inch 7-inch LCD 10.1″ WSVGA LCD or PixelQI
Resolution 1024 x 768 1280 x 800 1024 x 768 1024 x 600 1024 x 600
Processor 1GHz dual-core Apple A5 1GHz dual-core NVIDIA Tegra 2 1.2GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 1GHz dual-core TI OMAP4430 1GHz dual-core Cortex A9 w/ULP GPU NVIDIA Tegra 250
Memory 512MB RAM 1GB RAM 1GB RAM 1GB RAM 2GB RAM (1GB DDR2, 1GB SLC)
Storage 16GB / 32GB / 64GB 32GB 16GB / 32GB 16GB / 32GB / 64GB 8GB microSD epansion
Front camera VGA

2 megapixel 1.3 megapixel 3 megapixel 3.2 MP Auto Focus Swivel Camera
Rear camera 720p / 30p video 5 megapixel AF with dual-LED flash, 720 / 30p video none 5 megapixel, 1080p video same as front @720p
Cellular radio Quadband HSPA or CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A 3G with free upgrade to 4G LTE 3G and 4G 3G and 4G WWAN – 3G HSPA
WiFi 802.11a/b/g/n 802.11a/b/g/n 802.11 b/g/n 802.11a/b/g/n 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR 2.1 + EDR 2.1 + EDR 2.1 + EDR 2.1 + EDR
Accelerometer 3-axis 3-axis Yes Yes 3-Axis
Gyroscope Yes Yes Yes
Battery 25Wh 6,500mAh 6,300 mAh 5,300 mAh 3 cell 24.6WH
Thickness 8.8mm 12.7mm 13.7mm 10mm Thickness: ~14 mm
Weight 601g (WiFi), 607g (Verizon), 613g (AT&T) 725g 740g 425g ~1.6 pounds – converted ~726g

some other missing information on these charts about the Notion Ink Adam:

  • Ambient Light Sensor
  • GPS
  • Digital Compass
  • FM receiver
  • USB 2.0 Host x 2
  • Mini USB
  • HDMI – full video mirroring
  • Micro SD slot
  • SIM Card slot
  • DC connector

I already know my html skills suck, and this table looks like crap, it does look a little better in Firefox than any other browser I’ve tried… maybe one day I’ll try to learn CSS…

The week before the Evo launched I read about the SD card error, which I immediately wrote off as “idiots trying to use a class 2 SDHC to write 720p video” when any photographer could tell yo uyou need at least a class 6 to do HD video.  so I was not worried I had already planned to spend the money on a 16GB class 6 micro SDHC card.  then they started complaining about battery life, the lack of an AMOLED screen, then it was confirmed it was shipping with a 8GB micro SDHC not the rumored 16GB card.  Then there was the extra $10 fee to “unlock greater than 5GB data usage per month” NOT for 4G access like everyone kept saying, please read the fine print people!  Next came a charge for tethering, then you needed a special HDMI cable to do the HDMI out, next was the supreme compression level of the 720p video and the 8mp images, the final issue was the monthly charge for Qik!!  I could not believe how badly Sprint and HTC had fucked up the perfect cell phone.  At least the promised to give Froyo to the Evo before years end, that was the only bonus to look forward to…
then I started using the phone, I installed 259 apps that I had preselected using appbrain.com (also an android app called “app brain”) that uses the Android Marketplace to search for and “queue” apps to install on your phone.  what you do is go on the website, find apps you want to use, and then you click install and it loads them into a queue on the website.  then when you get your phone (as was my case, since I did this 3 days before the Evo launched), the first thing you do is go to the market and install “app brain” then unfortunately you have to launch the app and login, then it will check the installed app database and compare it to what the website says you want/have installed.  DO NOT CLICK THE SYNC BUTTON AT THIS TIME!!!  I did not on my phone, but when I upgraded my wife’s Samsung Moment to Android 2.1 I used AppBrain and hit the “Sync” button, instead of updating the phone to match AppBrain’s database, it made the AppBrain Database match the phones (which at the time only contained AppBrain), and I had to go through the marketplace and manually locate and install everything again.
Ok, back to using AppBrain on my Evo, I clicked the “Install” button to add the 259 apps to my new Evo, this sucks, the only thing AppBrain is capable of doing (I think it is a security limitation set by google) is to:
1. open the Android marketplace
2. insert a search query for the apps you selected on their website, one at a time.
So, after clicking install you are provided with the marketplace search screen and after a few seconds it pulls up the app you were looking for (if it is available in your country/OS version, while there is a filter on AppBrain’s website for OS version and country, you may still find and select apps that are not available to your phone, personally I selected about 12-15 that were not found in the marketplace when I tried to install them).  from this point on it is almost like doing it yourself, you have to click the install button (or buy if it is a paid app, but I recommend doing th efree version first to make sure it runs well on your device.  I ran into several apps I wanted to buy after trying them on my wife’s Moment, only to find out they REQUIRE a physical keyboard, or a ball, or a D-Pad), the install button gives you the warning page of the access that the app wants (if any), just the same as if you did this without AppBrain, select OK and it will initiate the install.  NOW, to get to the next app in my huge list to add to the phone (by the way, after 8 days I still have not narrowed the list down to less than 200, but I am working on it) you MUST HIT THE BACK BUTTON on your phone, some apps when they start downloading the MarketPlace will automatically take you back to your search results (which by the way, AppBrain searches by the Unique Identifier for the app, so only the correct app will come up in the search, or no apps), some apps will leave you on the details to watch the progress meter go by while it downloads and installs, if yo uare on the details page, press the back button to get to the search results, once you are on th esearch results page, press the back button again to get the next app on your list.  This seems to be the only way to do it, so yes, I had to do this process more than 200 times to get all those apps installed on my phone.
The only benefits I found to using AppBrain, was that I was able to use my laptop to interface with the marketplace and I did it days before I hand my phone in my hands, saving me hours after I got the phone.  Now, one more limitation on AppBrain, their website can only show you 50 pages of 10 apps each per category. this means that the maximum number of apps you can browse from AppBrain without doing a search is about 15% of the current android marketplace.  So to compensate for this without doing specific searches (yes I looked at all 50 pages of almost every category) they place a “similar apps” and “others by this developer” list on the right hand side of the screen when viewing the details on an app, very handy.
Not too long after I started this process (at exactly 8:00am) my Evo received the now famous SD card patch OTA update.
Alright, so within 2-3 hours I had all 250+/- apps installed that were found, time to start loading them and testing them out, several were duplicate apps that I could not decide which I wanted to use without having actually used them.  To this day, I still have not loaded all of the apps on my phone, I have purchased 3 or 4 total, 2 or 3 of which were planned purchases before I even got my phone, I was just waiting to make sure the demo’s worked first (that means 1 was not a planned purchase and just plain surprised me when I found it).  There are others that I intend on buying, but need to wait until my next paycheck to afford it, as Android apps on average cost 2-4 times as much as comparable iPhone apps AND the graphics on almost every single Android app looks like an 8 yearold designed it.  I really feel that google needs to step in and regulate some quality controlls over the apps, not content, but quality.  I am sick and tired of loading an app and finding stick figures, or a plain black background and hand drawn squares and circles and teardrop shaped drawings (see a couple of pictures below for examples, what is sad is those are some of the games I really like too, but won’t buy because they are $2.99 or $4.99 and the graphics are a blank screen with “stick figures”).  If you really want to understand my frustration with the graphics, go find someone who is an Apple lover, and has owned more than one iPhone, and ask them to show you some games, then you will understand.  some of my favorites are the rogue trainer, field runners, rocket bears (I think that is the name, it’s a teddy bear looking brown bear that is under attack by zombie panda bears), and pocket god (I’ll have to check out my friends iPhone and see what some of the others I like are called, so you can go check them out.  trust me there is a huge difference and almost everything he buys is either $0.99 or $1.99 sometimes he waits for it to go on sale before buying, but never pays more than $1.99 for an app).
People complain about the “fart” apps on iPhone, well I think there are more on Android than iPhone, AND Android has a ton of freaking jigsaw puzzle games, I cannot understand that, why is there not 1 or 2 apps, and the rest could be download add on packs that give you more images to use in the jigsaw app…
right next post will be about the phone itself, I’ll post it in a few minutes…

The week before the Evo launched I read about the SD card error, which I immediately wrote off as “idiots trying to use a class 2 SDHC to write 720p video” when any photographer could tell you you should use at least a class 6 card to do HD video.  So, I was not worried I had already planned to spend the money on a 16GB class 6 micro SDHC card.  then they started complaining about battery life, the lack of an AMOLED screen, then it was confirmed it was shipping with a 8GB micro SDHC not the rumored 16GB card.  Then there was the extra $10 fee to “unlock greater than 5GB data usage per month” NOT for 4G access like everyone kept saying, please read the fine print people!  Next came a charge for tethering, then you needed a special HDMI cable to do the HDMI out, next was the supreme compression level of the 720p video and the 8mp images, the final issue was the monthly charge for Qik!!  I could not believe how badly Sprint and HTC has fucked up the perfect cell phone.  At least they promised to give Froyo to the Evo before years end, that was the only bonus to look forward to…

then I started using the phone, I installed 259 apps that I had preselected using appbrain.com (also an android app called “AppBrain”) that uses the Android Marketplace to search for and “queue” apps to install on your phone.  what you do is go on the website, find apps you want to use, and then you click install and it loads them into a queue on the website.  then when you get your phone (as was my case, since I did this 3 days before the Evo launched), the first thing you do is go to the market and install “AppBrain” then unfortunately you have to launch the app and login, then it will check the installed app database and compare it to what the website says you want/have installed.  DO NOT CLICK THE SYNC BUTTON AT THIS TIME!!!  I did not on my phone, but when I upgraded my wife’s Samsung Moment to Android 2.1 I used AppBrain and hit the “Sync” button, instead of updating the phone to match AppBrain’s database, it made the AppBrain Database match the phones (which at the time only contained AppBrain), and I had to go through the marketplace and manually locate and install everything again.

Ok, back to using AppBrain on my Evo, I clicked the “Install” button to add the 259 apps to my new Evo, this sucks, the only thing AppBrain is capable of doing (I think it is a security limitation set by google) is to:

1. open the Android marketplace

2. insert a search query for the apps you selected on their website, one at a time.

So, after clicking install you are provided with the marketplace search screen and after a few seconds it pulls up the app you were looking for (if it is available in your country/OS version, while there is a filter on AppBrain’s website for OS version and country, you may still find and select apps that are not available to your phone, personally I selected about 12-15 that were not found in the marketplace when I tried to install them).  from this point on it is almost like doing it yourself, you have to click the install button (or buy if it is a paid app, but I recommend doing th efree version first to make sure it runs well on your device.  I ran into several apps I wanted to buy after trying them on my wife’s Moment, only to find out they REQUIRE a physical keyboard, or a ball, or a D-Pad), the install button gives you the warning page of the access that the app wants (if any), just the same as if you did this without AppBrain, select OK and it will initiate the install.  NOW, to get to the next app in my huge list to add to the phone (by the way, after 8 days I still have not narrowed the list down to less than 200, but I am working on it) you MUST HIT THE BACK BUTTON on your phone, some apps when they start downloading the MarketPlace will automatically take you back to your search results (which by the way, AppBrain searches by the Unique Identifier for the app, so only the correct app will come up in the search, or no apps), some apps will leave you on the details to watch the progress meter go by while it downloads and installs, if yo uare on the details page, press the back button to get to the search results, once you are on th esearch results page, press the back button again to get the next app on your list.  This seems to be the only way to do it, so yes, I had to do this process more than 200 times to get all those apps installed on my phone.

The only benefits I found to using AppBrain, was that I was able to use my laptop to interface with the marketplace and I did it days before I hand my phone in my hands, saving me hours after I got the phone.  Now, one more limitation on AppBrain, their website can only show you 50 pages of 10 apps each per category. this means that the maximum number of apps you can browse from AppBrain without doing a search is about 15% of the current android marketplace.  So to compensate for this without doing specific searches (yes I looked at all 50 pages of almost every category) they place a “similar apps” and “others by this developer” list on the right hand side of the screen when viewing the details on an app, very handy.

Not too long after I started this process (at exactly 8:00am) my Evo received the now famous SD card patch OTA update.

Alright, so within 2-3 hours I had all 250+/- apps installed that were found, time to start loading them and testing them out, several were duplicate apps that I could not decide which I wanted to use without having actually used them.  To this day, I still have not loaded all of the apps on my phone, I have purchased 3 or 4 total, 2 or 3 of which were planned purchases before I even got my phone, I was just waiting to make sure the demo’s worked first (that means 1 was not a planned purchase and just plain surprised me when I found it).  There are others that I intend on buying, but need to wait until my next paycheck to afford it, as Android apps on average cost 2-4 times as much as comparable iPhone apps AND the graphics on almost every single Android app looks like an 8 yearold designed it.  I really feel that google needs to step in and regulate some quality controlls over the apps, not content, but quality.  I am sick and tired of loading an app and finding stick figures, or a plain black background and hand drawn squares and circles and teardrop shaped drawings (see a couple of pictures below for examples, what is sad is those are some of the games I really like too, but won’t buy because they are $2.99 or $4.99 and the graphics are a blank screen with “stick figures”).  If you really want to understand my frustration with the graphics, go find someone who is an Apple lover, and has owned more than one iPhone, and ask them to show you some games, then you will understand.  some of my favorites are the rogue trainer, field runners, rocket bears (I think that is the name, it’s a teddy bear looking brown bear that is under attack by zombie panda bears), and pocket god (I’ll have to check out my friends iPhone and see what some of the others I like are called, so you can go check them out.  trust me there is a huge difference and almost everything he buys is either $0.99 or $1.99 sometimes he waits for it to go on sale before buying, but never pays more than $1.99 for an app).

People complain about the “fart” apps on iPhone, well I think there are more on Android than iPhone, AND Android has a ton of freaking jigsaw puzzle games, I cannot understand that, why is there not 1 or 2 apps, and the rest could be download add on packs that give you more images to use in the jigsaw app…

right, next post will be about the phone itself, I’ll post it in a few minutes…

outdoor image in full sunlight taken with the Evo

outdoor image in full sunlight taken with the Evo

outdoor image in full sunlight taken with the Evo

outdoor image in full sunlight taken with the Evo

outdoor image in full sunlight taken with the Evo

taken indoors with minimal lighting from about 6" away

taken outdoors in early morning sunlight in the mountains with the Evo

taken outdoors in early morning sunlight in the mountains with the Evo

taken at the same time and place as my dog (the previous picture)

taken at the same time and place as my dog (the previous picture)

taken about 5 minutes after the last picture of the house from ~2'

taken about 5 minutes after the last picture of the house from about 2' away

taken just after dusk outside

taken just after dusk outside

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Sorry for the exceptionally long title…

************************FAILED INSTALLATION, after approximately 3 hours of trying I give up**********************

**********update********

going to give it a shot on a 32-bit install tonight and see how that goes…

********end update********
Had a bit of an issue getting this to work, so I decided to put up a post, seeing as how some of the new fandangled Android phones launching this year will get some people interested in developing their own apps (and apple products too, this SDE is good for iPhone and Android currently…)  For this example, I am doing it as I type it, so hopefully I will come back and clean it up a bit later… I am creating a directory under ~/Downloads to both DL and save all the files used in this process.

*********************I had an error in this process, so I have documented it here.  make sure you read through to the end before trying, as I will re-post a working step-by-step guide at the end so you can avoid these errors…******************

step by step how I got this working (hopefully it will be working  when I finish!!)

  1. mkdir ~/Downloads/android/environment (makes the app directory, you can put it where ever you want, it will make a subdirectory when you do the download)
  2. sudo apt-get install build-essential ruby rubygems libzip-ruby scons libxml2-dev libgtk2.0-dev python-dev ruby-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev libnotify-dev libgstreamer0.10-dev libxss-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev git-core (this downloads all the dependencies you need)
  3. git clone git://github.com/appcelerator/titanium_desktop (this actually pulls down the application)
  4. cd titanium_desktop
  5. git submodule update –init (initiates an update I believe…)
  6. cd kroll
  7. git checkout master (really know nothing about git, I’ll have to look this one up…)
  8. cd ..
  9. scons debug=1 sdkinstaller run=1 (this actually builds the app and makes a binary for you to run)

after step 9 I got this error

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lPocoFoundation

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

scons: *** [build/linux/runtime/libkhost.so] Error 1

scons: building terminated because of errors.

a little hunting found me this:

sudo apt-get install libPocoFoundation*

Reading package lists… Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information… Done

Note, selecting libpocofoundation9-dbg for regex ‘libPocoFoundation*’

Note, selecting libpocofoundation9 for regex ‘libPocoFoundation*’

The following extra packages will be installed:

libpocofoundation9 libpocofoundation9-dbg

The following NEW packages will be installed:

libpocofoundation9 libpocofoundation9-dbg

0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Need to get 2,924kB of archives.

After this operation, 10.6MB of additional disk space will be used.

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y

Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe libpocofoundation9 1.3.6p1-1 [525kB]

Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe libpocofoundation9-dbg 1.3.6p1-1 [2,399kB]

after which it proceeded to install those 2 packages…

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
scons: *** [build/linux/runtime/libkhost.so] Error 1
scons: building terminated because of errors.

so I re-ran the install script to see what it might do…

same error… new tactic…

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libPocoFoundation.so.9 /usr/lib/libPocoFoundation

ran it again…

same error… new tactic…

ls ./build/linux/runtime/

libcrypto.so.0.9.8          libgpg-error.so.0.3.0       libPocoCrypto.so.9      libproxy.so.0.0.0

libcurl.so.4.1.1            libgthread-2.0.so.0.2200.3  libPocoData.so.9        libsoup-2.4.so.1.3.0

libgailutil.so.18.0.1       libicudata.so.38.1          libPocoFoundation.so.9  libsoup-gnome-2.4.so.1.3.0

libgcrypt.so.11.4.4         libicui18n.so.38.1          libPocoNet.so.9         libssl.so.0.9.8

libgeoclue.so.0.0.0         libicuio.so.38.1            libPocoNetSSL.so.9      libwebkittitanium-1.0.so.2.15.1

libgio-2.0.so.0.2200.3      libicule.so.38.1            libPocoSQLite.so.9      libxcb-render.so.0.0.0

libglib-2.0.so.0.2200.3     libiculx.so.38.1            libPocoUtil.so.9        libxcb-render-util.so.0.0.0

libgnutls.so.26.4.6         libicutu.so.38.1            libPocoXML.so.9         webinspector

libgobject-2.0.so.0.2200.3  libicuuc.so.38.1            libPocoZip.so.9

so according to this the file might already be there? just with the wrong name…
next fix attempt…
sudo cp build/linux/runtime/libPocoFoundation.so.9 build/linux/runtime/libPocoFoundation.so
(also tried putting a .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 at the end of it still no luck)
next thing I tried…
echo PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib
no good
but I did happen to find this…
/home/android-sdk/.titanium/runtime/linux/1.0.0/libPocoFoundation.so
which I added to /etc/environment and restarted the VM.
  1. sudo vi /etc/environment
  2. /PATH
  3. $
  4. i
  5. :/home/android-sdk/.titanium/runtime/linux/1.0.0/
  6. [esc]
  7. :wq!
just in case…
echo $PATH
showed what I wanted, so I re-ran the build…
same error.
:~/Downloads/android/environment/titanium_desktop/installer/linux$ cat SConscript
#!/usr/bin/env python
import os.path as path
just the first couple lines, but show that it is indeed using the system path, and I have 2 locations with the lib it is looking for in my path…
right new method… looking at the error it says
scons: *** [build/linux/runtime/libkhost.so] Error 1
well, that file does not exist in that location, so I am going to try and put it there…
sudo cp /home/android-sdk/.titanium/runtime/linux/1.0.0/libkhost.so .
no change, still same error.
starting to look like I will have to build my Android apps from windows…
well after 3 hours of trying to figure it out, I have had an idea…
~/Downloads/android/environment/titanium_desktop$ sudo scons debug=1 sdkinstaller run=1
exact same problem…
going to bed, I’ll probably post this now and make anew post later if I try again… 3+ hours to install 1 application is more than my patients will normally allow for a round 2…

To get updates…

  1. cd ~/Downloads/android/environment/titanium_desktop
  2. git pull
  3. cd krull
  4. git pull

**********reference link for this information, I just made it more specific and actually tried to do it using these instructions…

and the following other useful blog posts and such…

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=932162

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/make-error-usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-lxext-365646/

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204908

don’t forget to get the Android SDK!!!

Right so first off I have to say that it is all my fault I am not currently up and running 100% in FreeBSD 8.0, I agree before anyone else can say it… I’m an idiot.  I went out and bought (went out=I hit up newegg.com)  a wireless card so I can stop bridging my network connection off my laptop, and I just had to buy an 802.11n dual antena (very cool looking too…) wireless PCI card, one that has a BRAND NEWish CHIPSET that is not currently supported in Linux, or BSD.  So, I will gladly bend over and take what’s coming to me for that one… But, it was the same price as the 802.11g card and supports MIMO!! so I think I deserve some brownie points for that…

Well, here is a copy of what I have posted on the DesktopBSD forum (more on that later)

Ok, well I had a nice long post typed out here (twice now, but I copied most of it before I hit the stupid key this time) with lots of details and useless additives; however I hit the stupid “back” button that IBM thought would be a good idea to put on the key board of this laptop right next to the up arrow… and so it is gone.

this will have to be a quick version, minus some heavily laden with porn russian websites (oh! there was also one trying to sell an iphone x-ray vision app too!!!) I can find zero info on this chipset, I have a Encore Electronics ENLWI-NX2 802.11n PCI card, works in Win7 AFTER running their config/setup progy.  Shows up in pciconf with class, card, chip, rev, and hdr hex codes, and a vendor and class listing, but nothing else.  It shows up in windows as an RTL8190P, I was unsuccessful in finding it in FreeBSD 8.0 x64; but I may have forgotten to capitalize the “R” in Realtek when I grepped the “pciconf -lv” results.

manufacturer product page: http://www.encore-usa.com/product_item.php?region=us&bid=2&pgid=81_2&pid=412

I followed the ndisgen instructions posted in this forum by sqlbsd, and all went well until I tried to load the RTL8190P_sys file, then the system hangs for 3-6 seconds and finally the PC just shut off.  So a bit more PC info… I tried running FreeBSD 8.0 x64 first, but did not even find the card listed in pciconf (or dmesg) when I grepped for Realtek (maybe I forgot to capitalize the “R”? but either way I didn’t see it, and although I got KDE setup and it booted to the login screen, I could not log in, the KB and mouse only worked on the console screens, so I came back to DesktopBSD).  So, I have a clean DesktopBSD 1.7 x64 install on my machine, only 1 network card and it is this wireless card.

I am going to try the 32bit drivers, the win 2k drivers, and then the vista drivers that shipped with the card.  I also have the setup file from the manufacturer’s website DL’d and will check that for a different version.  if anyone has any ideas I’d be happy to give them a go.  I may try an Ubuntu Live CD to check if it will recognize the card, also puppy linux tends to find wifi cards out of the box, so I may give that a shot and see if I can figure out which drivers they use.

I knew I should have just bought the 802.11g card… but I had to go with the 802.11n just cuz it was the same price… and had MIMO support…

****edit 10 minutes later****
I did notice that the Encore ENLWI-G is listed on the FreeBSD 7.2 Hardware list, so there is hope…

****update 8:12pm EST****
So, the newly downloaded drivers from the website were slightly more generic (RTL819xP drivers) but they are 7 months newer, so I tried them.  The Win64 failed to convert invalid syntax line 2355 or so, the the winxp2k drivers loaded fine, but failed to create the .ko file.  The vista x64 drivers converted with no errors and loaded without crashing the PC; however the system still does not recognize the wireless card. so I guess I move on to something else?

Right, well then… now you know… and we all know what happens after that… (right, if anyone can’t find those russian sites (I searched for “RTL8190 FreeBSD”) I’ll be happy to email you the links… j/k :oops:  ) so on to a little more explaining…

As stated in the post I failed to find the wireless card even listed in the installed hardware listing, I am 90% sure at this point I did not capitalize the “R” as that just makes no sense.  After which I just dumped the FreeBSD install and went to Desktop BSD, as I have installed DBSD 1.6 previously on this hardware and it had KDE working in under 50 mins with no manual configuring and I was unable to type on the login screen currently in FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE.  So I booted up of my newly minted Desktop BSD disc and away it went.  I learned that if you create more than one UFS partition during install that when you reboot you get a “Invalid Partition Table” message instead of your OS. easy fix, don’t make multiple partitions.  The OS is up and running at this very second, but without inet access.

So I am off to try an Ubuntu live CD, Fedora Live CD, and a Puppy and or Slax USB bootable File System.  In an attempt to find out if any non-windows OS can auto configure or even load the Windows drivers to get that wifi working (I believe I have a post around here somewhere about my HP laptop running Puppy and it finding th ewifi adapter and being able to locate networks, but not able to connect, and Ubuntu 8.x on that same laptop working perfectly with wifi, so we shall see what happens…)

*****quick update, before I even post it… HA! *****

after reading the reviews on the NewEgg site (specifically one from feb 28th), I decided to DL the RTL8192E drivers from the Realtek website, will give them a shot before the other OS’s.

*****update March 12th*****

So, I went ahead and added the lines to /boot/loader.conf to automate the loading of the driver during startup, but I have also been getting the same results with all driver versions. (XP drivers fail to convert, and Vista and 7 drivers convert fine, but the system still refuses to acknowledge the existence of the hardware device after using kldload or even restarting.)  I currently have a KUbuntu live CD loaded and an lspci from a terminal screen shows the network controller, states it is a realtek and gives a device of 8190.  however, the control panel does not acknowledge a wireless adapter as being present nor does ifconfig show the wireless adapter as being present.

I tried installing ndiswrapper from the cd and attempted to load the windows drivers from there.  First I tried running ndiswrapper and it told me it was not installed and to run ndiswrapper-common, when I installed it and tried to run it it told me to install a bunch of other things.  All were available except ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 which replied back that it was missing, obsolete, or no longer available, then that it had been replaced by ndiswrapper-common.  so I could not run ndiswrapper because I did not have ndiswrapper-utils and could not install it because it was replaced by what I already had? got me, without doing an actual install, the good news is that it completely recognized it, I’ll have to check with an installation if it is already in the newest linux kernel, I have just moved on to Fedora since I do not intend on doind an Ubuntu install if I do not have to.

I booted up the Fedora 12 disc I have and it failed to bring up the KDE GUI.  The Vterms were available, and an lspci -v showed the full information on the wireless card, so I am going to try a reboot and see what happens.

Everything came up fine with a reboot, not sure what happend the first time.  it is not working; however an lspci -v shows no kernel driver in use.  I will need to do some research to find out how to add the driver while running off the Live CD, probably get to that later.  been working all day in front of a computer, need to relax my eyes some now.

*************Update 3-17-2010**************

just found this website and I think this is a linux driver for the rtl8190p 802.11n chipset

http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/staging/rtl8192e/r8190_rtl8256.c

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